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	<description>Rob Ciampa&#039;s Markets, Musings &#38; Meanders</description>
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		<title>Comment on Shitwork by Jonathan Kranz</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2012/01/10/shitwork/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Kranz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, 

That thing about shitwork from highend players is all too true. I have a hair-raising story to tell about a famous tech company that I cannot share online. Yes, savor the suspense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, </p>
<p>That thing about shitwork from highend players is all too true. I have a hair-raising story to tell about a famous tech company that I cannot share online. Yes, savor the suspense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shitwork by Rob</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2012/01/10/shitwork/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,

Love the quote from TOH and I agree with it. I&#039;m usually a 3-quote guy and take the middle bid if all things are equal. Unfortunately, though, I&#039;ve seen shitwork from high end players as well (like some lawyers and management consultants) who delegate to incompetent underlings, but still charge $400/hour.

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>Love the quote from TOH and I agree with it. I&#8217;m usually a 3-quote guy and take the middle bid if all things are equal. Unfortunately, though, I&#8217;ve seen shitwork from high end players as well (like some lawyers and management consultants) who delegate to incompetent underlings, but still charge $400/hour.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shitwork by Jonathan Kranz</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2012/01/10/shitwork/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Kranz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good post about a very bad problem.

There&#039;s another dimension to this issue, however. Years ago I was reading an article in &quot;This Old House&quot; magazine about selecting a contractor and came across a line I&#039;ll never forget: &quot;If you hire a contractor based on the submission of the lowest bid, consider yourself a co-conspirator in the project&#039;s failure.&quot;

Now I&#039;m not at all suggesting that this is what you did, Rob. But I have seen prospects conduct a race to the bottom -- should they then be surprised they got subpar results from bottom-feeder work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good post about a very bad problem.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another dimension to this issue, however. Years ago I was reading an article in &#8220;This Old House&#8221; magazine about selecting a contractor and came across a line I&#8217;ll never forget: &#8220;If you hire a contractor based on the submission of the lowest bid, consider yourself a co-conspirator in the project&#8217;s failure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not at all suggesting that this is what you did, Rob. But I have seen prospects conduct a race to the bottom &#8212; should they then be surprised they got subpar results from bottom-feeder work?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Marketing House of Pizza by Rob</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2011/06/20/marketing-house-of-pizza/comment-page-1/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Erica. Having spent time in both the marketing business and the pizza business, I realized that linking them was easier than I previously thought. The parallels were surprising.

You raise a very important point: if the marketing organization is not aligned with corporate strategy, then its efforts are compromised. A recent study (http://www.fournaisegroup.com/Marketers-Lack-Credibility.asp?_fwaHound=13338182_12185_13338182_0_0_0_0) claimed that 73% of CEOs think marketers lack credibility. I wonder how many of those CEOs articulated strategic direction to not only their marketing teams, but to their entire organization. Maybe less than half. But it&#039;s not just the CEO; what about the head of marketing? In a small organization, such as many non-profits, nobody fills that seat. In larger organizations, the CMOs and VPs of Marketing better step up. It&#039;s time for a different mindset - on everyone&#039;s part.

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Erica. Having spent time in both the marketing business and the pizza business, I realized that linking them was easier than I previously thought. The parallels were surprising.</p>
<p>You raise a very important point: if the marketing organization is not aligned with corporate strategy, then its efforts are compromised. A recent study (<a href="http://www.fournaisegroup.com/Marketers-Lack-Credibility.asp?_fwaHound=13338182_12185_13338182_0_0_0_0" rel="nofollow">http://www.fournaisegroup.com/Marketers-Lack-Credibility.asp?_fwaHound=13338182_12185_13338182_0_0_0_0</a>) claimed that 73% of CEOs think marketers lack credibility. I wonder how many of those CEOs articulated strategic direction to not only their marketing teams, but to their entire organization. Maybe less than half. But it&#8217;s not just the CEO; what about the head of marketing? In a small organization, such as many non-profits, nobody fills that seat. In larger organizations, the CMOs and VPs of Marketing better step up. It&#8217;s time for a different mindset &#8211; on everyone&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Marketing House of Pizza by Erica Holthausen</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2011/06/20/marketing-house-of-pizza/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica Holthausen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, that&#039;s what I&#039;m talkin&#039; about! Anyone who can turn food into a blog post on marketing has my attention. And to equate great pizza with great marketing earns my undying love and devotion! 

*swoon*

Alright, now back to business. When I worked as a marketing and development director at a nonprofit organization, I was often left out of strategy meetings -- especially for programs and, surprisingly enough, new initiatives. I would ask buckets of questions about the program descriptions I was given. I was always told that I didn&#039;t need to know so many details and informed that I was just to post the descriptions to the website. Marketing was undervalued -- even though it is critical to help fill seats and raise money. So, my advice for the dear CEO is to both educate your marketing staff about your products and services and take the time to learn from your marketing staff as well. It&#039;s true that you don&#039;t need to be the best marketer in the world, but you do need to know enough to be able to identify one.

Here&#039;s to the sensational pizzaiolo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talkin&#8217; about! Anyone who can turn food into a blog post on marketing has my attention. And to equate great pizza with great marketing earns my undying love and devotion! </p>
<p>*swoon*</p>
<p>Alright, now back to business. When I worked as a marketing and development director at a nonprofit organization, I was often left out of strategy meetings &#8212; especially for programs and, surprisingly enough, new initiatives. I would ask buckets of questions about the program descriptions I was given. I was always told that I didn&#8217;t need to know so many details and informed that I was just to post the descriptions to the website. Marketing was undervalued &#8212; even though it is critical to help fill seats and raise money. So, my advice for the dear CEO is to both educate your marketing staff about your products and services and take the time to learn from your marketing staff as well. It&#8217;s true that you don&#8217;t need to be the best marketer in the world, but you do need to know enough to be able to identify one.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to the sensational pizzaiolo!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hey Marketer, RTFM by Marketing House of Pizza</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2010/03/28/hey-marketer-rtfm/comment-page-1/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing House of Pizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that many marketers really don’t know their products, their customers, or their markets. I’ve made this case before. This is our farm, our dairy, our mill; this is where we get our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that many marketers really don’t know their products, their customers, or their markets. I’ve made this case before. This is our farm, our dairy, our mill; this is where we get our [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leadership First, Jackhammers Second. by Rob</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2011/01/24/leadership-first-jackhammers-second/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, I wholeheartedly agree. Too often teachers are expected to be proxy parents because many parents have abdicated their responsibilities in the educational process. It&#039;s a grey area. The business arena is also grey and it&#039;s frequently impossible to figure out whether some leaders have abdicated their commitment to the companies they serve because their facade masks excessive self interest. Perhaps that&#039;s why good outnumbers great.

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I wholeheartedly agree. Too often teachers are expected to be proxy parents because many parents have abdicated their responsibilities in the educational process. It&#8217;s a grey area. The business arena is also grey and it&#8217;s frequently impossible to figure out whether some leaders have abdicated their commitment to the companies they serve because their facade masks excessive self interest. Perhaps that&#8217;s why good outnumbers great.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leadership First, Jackhammers Second. by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Rob.  Indeed the teacher in the classroom provides infinitely more on a day-to-day basis than a nice entryway in a school building.  But even more than teachers is the role of the parents, as they constantly are putting the development of their children before their own self-interests.  You can extend this analogy to the business world -- leaders should always put their company&#039;s best interests before their own personal objectives.  (One of the key messages in &quot;Good to Great&quot;, which I know you are familiar with).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Rob.  Indeed the teacher in the classroom provides infinitely more on a day-to-day basis than a nice entryway in a school building.  But even more than teachers is the role of the parents, as they constantly are putting the development of their children before their own self-interests.  You can extend this analogy to the business world &#8212; leaders should always put their company&#8217;s best interests before their own personal objectives.  (One of the key messages in &#8220;Good to Great&#8221;, which I know you are familiar with).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leadership First, Jackhammers Second. by Rob</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2011/01/24/leadership-first-jackhammers-second/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Valerie! Perhaps it&#039;s the vacuum of good leadership that forces us to continually attack symptoms. The resources wasted along the way to achieve no discernible improvement in results is stunning. But we&#039;ll keep trying... (BTW: Sorry to see the old Roberts JHS gone.)
Regards,
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Valerie! Perhaps it&#8217;s the vacuum of good leadership that forces us to continually attack symptoms. The resources wasted along the way to achieve no discernible improvement in results is stunning. But we&#8217;ll keep trying&#8230; (BTW: Sorry to see the old Roberts JHS gone.)<br />
Regards,<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leadership First, Jackhammers Second. by Valerie</title>
		<link>http://ciampa.com/blog/2011/01/24/leadership-first-jackhammers-second/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your comment regarding leadership.  Great article Rob!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your comment regarding leadership.  Great article Rob!</p>
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